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vn_maniac_16
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 Posted - 03 Mar 2007 : 8:38:11 PM
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After many months of contemplating and money issues I have finially fitted a pod filter and will draw up some pics for other users to see! It only took 10mins or so to do! 
Since fitting the pod it has eliminated all flat spots, increased power and acceleration whilst decreasing fuel consumption! Was easi as piss and a cold air intake box wasnt needed! I will install some brackets later if needed and maybe a little border to stop some hot air from entering!  No extra pipes were needed although i might buy one! Please leave feedback! 
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par10
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Posted - 04 Mar 2007 : 09:09:11 AM
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Your pod will need a complete CAI setup to get the best, IF ANY, performance increase for your car. Having just the pod on its own will actually decrease the power fractionally, as it is sucking in more hot air than the original setup.
I had a mate that dyno'd his stock VP both before installing a pod, after installing it and after fitting CAI. He actually lost 1kw after the pod was fitted, which was fixed with the CAI. They do sound/feel quicker with the pod on there, but i can assure you they don't make any really noticable difference performance-wise to a standard engine. |
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trizo
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Posted - 04 Mar 2007 : 1:21:24 PM
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| nice m8 ! Dont wanna burst ya bubble there vn maniac! Tha pod on its own realy dont do all that much besides makin em sound a bit nicer and give a better airflow! in saying that if u have it sitting in the engine bay and not in the air box you'll be sucking in hot air from the engine bay! Were as if you had a cai running into a home made airbox with your pod filter in there then you will feel a real power boost ... the reason 4 this is cold air in the t/b is better giving it a bit more bang when it mixes! hot air in my opinion does no favors 4 the car.. also as 4 the pod eliminating the flat spots that just sounds as if u were due 4 a new one ;) there have also been people cutting a hole in the spot were the airbox was and fitting the pod in that way so it sucks up the outside air!!! but hey not every 1 like to cut holes in there car! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 04 Mar 2007 : 5:21:22 PM
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Watch out for defects if it isn't in a box or shroud of some sort.
I believe the reason is that it creates a fire hazard? |
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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 04 Mar 2007 : 8:29:47 PM
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thanks on bursting my bubble! i will build a custom air box as originally planned and then probs grab a steel tube from super cheap to extend it a bit!
Wheres the best place to put the piping? Next to the radiator, infront of it? all the way to the LHS as possible? Cheers |
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trizo
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Posted - 05 Mar 2007 : 10:43:39 AM
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| lmao sorry m8 , when making your box make sure its neatn tidy !! and put it anywere behind in front the choice is yours thats y its custom ;) @mild50 your right there is a fire potential there quite rare but has been known to happen all the same! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 05 Mar 2007 : 11:59:54 PM
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The possiblities are almost endless when it comes to CAI- be wary of cutting holes though as it may be defectable also.
With my box, I bent the lip up a little to allow air to come over the headlight and get sucked in- kinda like the factory over the radiator principle. This could be a good option depending on the materials used to construct the box. |
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SWEET
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Posted - 06 Mar 2007 : 10:44:41 AM
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| i tried to use my old air box and cut it so i cuold close it with the pof filter sitting inside but i didnt really have the tools to cut it half way through i was getting heated up so i smashed it with my hammer:( |
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MILD50
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Posted - 06 Mar 2007 : 8:29:14 PM
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| I should edit that to say cutting holes in the actual vehicle can lead to hefty defects. |
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SWEET
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Posted - 06 Mar 2007 : 9:31:10 PM
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| i didnt cut holes on the actual vehicle i cutted the stock air box lid they replacable. plus i got 2 of them thats y i decided to cut and try to make sothing out of the lid but didnt work |
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mouce
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Posted - 07 Mar 2007 : 12:32:50 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by MILD50
Watch out for defects if it isn't in a box or shroud of some sort.
I believe the reason is that it creates a fire hazard?
Before fitting my pod I checked with VicRoads about the legallity of the pod filter on EFI cars.
I was told so long as the car still conformed to EPA noise and exhaust gas emissions standards there was nothing illegal about them.
I have since found out (through my own research) that Oil type pod filters (ie. anything that's washable) is illegal, boxed or not. The single use paper pod filters are fine, they do not require a box to be legal.
That said, I am yet to have been booked for my pod filter, as when I have been pulled over, I produce the printed copy of the e-mail from VicRoads and the Police officer under my bonnet leaves my pod alone.
Since VicRoads seem unaware of this distinction between wet and dry pod filters, I'd suggest that before fitting it you get an e-mail from them saying that it's fine to do so. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 07 Mar 2007 : 1:01:18 PM
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Wow- never heard that one before but very good to know.
I may just have to check with my local MVR... then again I need a box to dampen the induction noise (big pod- seriously bit pod with the Starr kit). |
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par10
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Posted - 07 Mar 2007 : 7:49:35 PM
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| Speaking of washable filters, i had a mate that got pulled over recently in his 5L calais. He's got a K&N panel filter, and QLD police said re-usable filters are legal in this state, apart from pods... Guessing its something to do with the fire hazzard??? Had me stumpt at first, but sort of makes sense now. |
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trizo
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Posted - 09 Mar 2007 : 3:58:04 PM
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mouce we need the how2 on pod boxs I think lol
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mouce
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 09:58:50 AM
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Don't worry, it's already half-written. There's a lot of how-to's that are on their way, and more keep being added to the list. I just type them up in word or notepad or KWrite (depending on which computer I'm on), then copy and paste them into here when they are ready to go.
Currently I have the following how-to's in development:
Multimeter Use (requested)
Make your own Memcals (I know it seems like it's never going to arive, but it is getting there)
Front suspension (started writing it, but still haven't finished my own front end yet)
Dual wiring for LED and standard parking lamps (requested)
Pod box with CAI (started, but waiting for pictures)
When they get here, you'll each need about a ream of paper to print it out. The memcal one is going to be a record, it's already massive, and I haven't added screen shots yet. |
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SWEET
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 1:56:01 PM
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| well mouce just wanna say thanx for the great work you do. cos all that home work you do u dont have to do it but u want to so thats very nice of u. thanx. |
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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 3:55:46 PM
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| che bruz!! |
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madvncom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 : 9:54:52 PM
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| just a question bout the cai do they run good when it's on gas? |
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SXC50L
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Posted - 20 Mar 2007 : 04:05:44 AM
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| i was told that when fitted a CAI that is usually takes around the 500km mark to reach full performance something about ur computer regersting to the more air being sucked in true?? false?? |
**My imaginary friend thinks u have serious problems...** |
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Butcha
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Posted - 20 Mar 2007 : 10:13:51 PM
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| i actually thought it did it as u were driving like from the 02 sensor, although just to say what i have is a cold air intake with a pod in it :P what a silly idea, works better though |
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vn_maniac_16
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Posted - 20 Mar 2007 : 10:55:06 PM
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can ne1 submit some pics of their CAI's. i really want to see a custom air box as ive heard all so much about them, cough mouce cough!
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SWEET
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mouce
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Posted - 26 Mar 2007 : 9:21:38 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by SXC50L
i was told that when fitted a CAI that is usually takes around the 500km mark to reach full performance something about ur computer regersting to the more air being sucked in true?? false??
Actually there's no more air being sucked in. That much is false. The engine uses exactly the same amount of air as before.
As for it taking 500km to see any difference, I'm not sure about that, if you fit it then reset the ecu then you should have full advantage from it straight away. Once it's up to temp you might find it take a few minutes to optimise the fuel mixture since that's drive from the O2 sensor, but that's almost instantaneous...
I can't see any reason for it to take a few hundred k's to sort itself out. |
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vn_turbo
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Posted - 15 Apr 2007 : 12:44:08 PM
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| hey ppls ive actually fitted my pod filter inside my original airbox and then runnin my cai as normal all i done was went too the local self serve wreckers(their always good for a discount) and got myself another outer part of the top of the air box where your intake tube connects and i took the inside part out of my airbox got some nuts n bolts and then attached another one the same as the outside in the top of my airbox i grabbed a piece of ducting from autobarn n just cut a small piece off it attached that too the inside of the airbox wiht pipe clamps ofcourse then just attached my pod too that leaving my free too sit in the middle of my airbox n the cai is attached as normal no holes cut no custom box needed too b made just an idea if anyone wants a relativley simple way round it. |
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