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roopz
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Posted - 16 Oct 2010 :  9:12:19 PM  Show Profile Send roopz a Private Message
 
Hi everyone, im new to the site and just wondering if anyone can help me.

I own a 1990 model vn wagon, and gradually the camber has gotten worse. When i had 15's on the front it was terrible, it would wear out insides of tires within ~1500 - 2000 k's. It also pulls strongly to a side even if i am only changing lanes..
Any ideas what could be the problem ??

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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  12:41:32 AM  Show Profile Send Mechknight73 a Private Message
 
First thing, is what are the tie rods like? Get someone to gently rock the steering back and forth while you get a look. What you're looking for is play, either in the steering rack or the tie rod ends.

If the tie rod ends are in good condition, have a wheel alignment done on your car. This should solve the camber problem. Sometimes suspension components can wear loose by themselves. Also, make sure there's no suspension bushes on the way out. All of these can contribute to possible camber issues
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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  12:57:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
i have the same problem but my front-right has good camber but my front-left camber is f**ked , it wears the outside off the tyre, i have had a wheel alignment and i asked him too fix my cars camber then but he didn't fix my cars camber he just mad it drive straight and did not fix my camber!!!! .my car drives start when i am driving and i can let go off steering while driving and car drives straight- when i test it . can i adjust the camber too fix it ?it should have some adjustment on the front-camber and how do you do it ? i could do it but i don't know how too do it on vn ? i need information on how to adjust the camber on my vn v6 s1 5speed 1989 executive so i can fix it ? than you
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  01:50:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
i just had a look at the vn v6 Gregory's repair manual and you can adjust the lower control arm pivot bolt it has a adjustment on it ,if you loosen the bolt and turn the bolt in the the lower control arm you can adjust the camber from here,the lower control arm pivot bolt has adjust on it for the camber ,it has a pivot bolt on it the lower control arm so you can adjust the front camber from there . i will be trying this out when i get some time to work on my car i hat wasting my tyres and money on tyres every couple off months so i will try to fix my camber problem up!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  1:14:47 PM  Show Profile Send Mechknight73 a Private Message
 
Although with any decent suspension shop, they're supposed to listen to you, and solve the problem. Sometimes it's just as simple as the adjustment mechanisms wear down, and move adrift on their own.
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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  9:39:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
hi i fixed it today i had time to work on car, there is no adjustment on the lower control arm pivot bolt dos not work !!!! so i dropped the front right suspension unit off underside of the front wheel housing - i took off shock and spring unit off the inside off the engine bay there are three nuts holding the suspension unit , i redrilled knew holes in the direction going in to the motor to fix camber 5mm in , then i just put it all back on and my camber is fixed free just labour and my time too fix it !!!!! i think i have good camber now .!!!!!!! if it needs more adjusting later on i will just readjust it more in so i don't where my tyre out on the out side off tyer i will have too see if it needs more adjusting later, if it needs it . camber fixed free!!!!!!! and i am so happy vn v6 5peed camber fixed!!!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  10:25:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
roopz you would have to drill the knew holes in the direction off your guards out ways to fix your camber problem not in like me i was getting worn tires on the outside off Tyre so i went towards the motor in ways , roopz you need to go out ways to fix your camber try 5mm . but make shore your front end is all in good condition first like Mechknight73 said !!!use the information given to you by Mechknight73!!!! and if all is good try what i did to fix it but go out ways for your knew holes and use good whooshes ,i put bigger whooshes on too cover the old hols try 5mm first and if it needs more readjusting just make the hole bigger and move it more out towards your Gard because you are wearing the insides off your tyres- easy fix and free !!!!!! to do just your time and labor !!!!

 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  10:32:16 PM  Show Profile Send roopz a Private Message
 
Sounds good guys il check it all out tomorrow, least i know wat im looking for now!
Least urs came out alright andrewpapa will let ya know how it all goes cheers for the advice
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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  11:59:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
i will tack some photos so you can see the modification i did to my car in the engine bay fire wall over the wheels arches where the shock absorbers are on top where it hocks up to the top and there is a plastic cap and 3 nuts holding it ,i cant think off the name off this part,where the shocks are hook up in the engine bay (the upper support member -in the engine bay over the wheel arches) i think . the part where you can install a (sports-strut-brace) too the engine bay ,that part , i hope you get what i am saying
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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Posted - 18 Oct 2010 :  12:19:44 AM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message
 
To much toe in will wear more on the outside of your tyres to much toe out will wear more on the inside of your tyres. The only camber and caster adjustment you have on a VN is the three positions that you can locate the strut top bearing in. The only other way to get camber and caster adjustment is to purchase after market adjustable strut bearing plates such as the Kmac items.

I would strongly recommend not drilling alternate mounting holes for the top strut bearing plate. The VN V8's have a bad tendency over time ( as these cars are 20+ years old) to lean the strut towers inwards toward the engine. The V6 will do this also but not to the same extent as there is not as much weight. To get your wheel alignment right in this instance you can install the after market camber/caster plate or you can get the towers realigned and install a strut brace.
 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 18 Oct 2010 :  12:48:46 AM  Show Profile Send Mechknight73 a Private Message
 
Oh for the joys of suspension work. There's a fault on the HZ Kingswoods that is similar. Over time, the front crossmember will sag. Wheel alignments are partly done by adding and removing shims from the top of the upper wishbone mount. When you run out of shims, you have to stick it on the rack to stretch it out again. In a show of both luck and loyalty, I didn't know at the time that my idler arm was about to seize. It picked the perfect moment to seize altogether; while on the alignment rig at the tyre place where the wheel alignment was done. Could have picked any moment to do it, stranding or attempting to kill me, but chose this moment, when I had the money, and had the time to get it done.

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Posted - 18 Oct 2010 :  01:44:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
i tuck the car for a test drive and it is still diving good just have too dive car for couple off weeks and i will check how the adjustment went tyre wear Wise, if the camber is ok i will leave it or readjust it too the suite more or less camber too the right camber setting -its just trial and era diagnosis .i only moved it 5mm in ways too fix the camber up i can go up too 12mm to 13mm in the adjustment but i decided do do 5 mm off standard set-holes first so it must have changed the camber by 4 to 5 degree camber ,if it needs more angle i have room for more adjustment if needed and did i say its a FREE MODIFACTION !!!!!I can go back to the original holes if need be but camber is f**ked in that position .i can put it back in the original position if need be the hols are still there so it just 3 knew holes next to old holes and gos all back on and your done- free modification no camber set needed , can see by looking at the front-right Tyre the camber angle off the Tyre looks much much better now good angle! so it must have changed the camber but i do not know exactly by how much ,like i said trial and era and if i need a wheel aliment i can do it i have done it before and i can get it diving-strait that is not a problem for me but the camber is !!! SO no camber stet needed its OR SHIMMES i fix the Camber up an i am happy!!!! with this modification !!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS A FREE MOD FREE MODIFICATIN FOR CAMBER AJUSTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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It may be free buddy but it will have a negative effect on the integrity of the suspension tower. Extra holes will weaken the structure and again I would strongly recommend not drilling holes in the strut tower. I think you will find also that you would have trouble passing a roadworthy with these modifications.
I am only trying to help buddy. I am all for modifications but only if those modifications do not effect the structural integrity of any part of the vehicle.
My motto is - Do it once, Do it right
Cheers
 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OFF MY FREE CAMBER ADJUSTMENT MODIFICATION -PHOTOS ARE IN MY FACEBOOK PHOTOS- http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=100000514457334#!/album.php?aid=45805&id=100000514457334
 

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Posted - 18 Oct 2010 :  10:48:09 PM  Show Profile Send dryVN a Private Message
 
It's ok to mod like this on a track car (eg. drifting etc.) where you might need 4 to 5 degree's neg camber. It's great for that but on the road your not solving the problem that's caused the tire to wear early. Not having a go at your mod it's not bad but in the right context. It makes your car un-roadworthy and could form a weak point in the Shocker tower other than it's intended purpose. Please no offence meant i can see that it's worked for you in this instance as getting a roadworthy is not a problem. Cheers
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Posted - 18 Oct 2010 :  11:10:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
VNSVLE this modification has not weakened the structure of my car ,you can't even see the mod because i put bigger stronger washers on to cover the old hols so you can even see the modification unless you know it has been dune to the car ,so in-fact its stronger than stock with the bigger whooshes on it .so whats is the problem that. i have just changed the camber angle and infact i had a good look at the tyre camber angle today and it looks very very good the tyre camber angle but i my need to go back a little 1mm or 2mm maybe i have to see how my tyer wears out if it is good i will leave it like that -trial an era adjustment.
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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Posted - 18 Oct 2010 :  11:42:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
VNSVLE this modification has not weakened the structure of my car ,you can't even see the mod because i put bigger stronger washers on to cover the old hols so you can even see the modification unless you know it has been dune to the car ,so in-fact its stronger than stock with the bigger whooshes on it .so whats is the problem with ,all i have dune is just changed the camber angle and in-fact i had a good look at the tyre camber angle today and it looks very good the tyre camber angle but i my need to go back a Little 1mm or 2mm maybe i have to see how my tyre wears out if it is good i will leave like that. i will have no problem passing road worthy-ness you can't even see the mod unless you know it has been dune to the car .i put bigger and stronger swooshes on too cover the old Hols so you can't even see the mod and it is stronger than stock with the bigger and stronger whooshes on it !!!!!!!!!!!! in the photos i am showing , i am showing two holes to show negative camber and positive camber adjustment but i only drilled on hole in the direction i had to go to fix my camber in ways so there is just one hole next to the old hole and the bigger stronger whooshes cover the old holes up so you can't even see the modification unless you know it has been dune to car it still looks stock!!!!!! you can't even see no difference with the position unless you know it has been dune to the car!!!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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Have you made new holes or widened the original one's ?
Once its in the right position and remember that suspension shops have accurate machines for this , I'd Put a thick weld on anywhere the metal is missing as a bare minimum , then your problems fixed.
The washers would be non structural and a few hard knock could flex the tower at that point.
VNSVLE is giving you good advice and it's a position that most would take on structural mod's , which are always best left to the pro's.
The help for this topic's intention is to fix a problem with suspension/steering in a legal sense for road use.
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that is not a problem i have a welder and i can wiled the holes up that is not a problem for me eazy i actually i just opened the hole in the direction i had to go to fix my camber so the holes are just bigger so i can get more adjustment i did not drill knew hole so i added knew stronger whooshes to cover the holes so just the position off the camber angle has changed and you cant tell the differences bye looking at it you wouldn't even notice it unless you knew it has been dune top the car . when i the find right camber i will weild the holes up when i find the tight poition .good idea dryVN to weld holes up once i find the right position for my diving style ,i take corners aggressively HARD THAT MY PROBLEM NOT THE CAR!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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SORRY I DID NOT DRILL KNEW HOHES I JUST OPENNED THE HOLE IN THE DIRECTIUON I HAD TO GO TO FIX MY CAMBER SO THERE ARE NO KNEW HOLES IN STUCTURE JUST MORE ADJUSTMENT AND WHEN I FIND THE RIGHT POSTION I WILL MARK ITS POSITION AND I WILL WELD THE HOLES UP FOR STRENTH BUT I DONT THINK IT NEEDS IT AND YOU CANT EVEN SEE THE MOD ANLESS YOU KNOW IT HAS DEEN DUNE TO THE CAR ,IT LOOKS LEGALE TOO ME.SORRY I DID NOT DRILL KNEW HOLES IN CAR!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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@andrewpapa - Your modification HAS weakened the strut tower simply because you have removed material from it!! Just because you cannot see it does not mean it has not been done and is ok to be done. As I have said in a previous post rotating the top bearing plate will give you a bit of adjustment which would have been enough to do what you wanted to do.

Have you ever had the suspension out?? If you have and have taken this bearing plate out you must ensure that it goes back in correct way or you will end up with problems with camber and caster (unless it was installed by a suspension shop and adjusted accordingly) .
From standard position if you rotate the bearing plate toward the front of the car this will increase camber and decrease caster. Rotating it toward the back of the car will increase camber and caster.
The information I provide is to ensure the safety of you and your passengers. Whether or not you take heed of the advice I provide is entirely up to you.
 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Welding the material without correct tempering procedures will weaken the structure further and having elongated holes will be a nightmare as the slightest bump can knock them out of position. Suspension is not something you want to be modifying unless competent to do so.
 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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i have never taken the suspension off the vn so if it has been dune before i don't know i don't now if its put in the right position i don know ,i can still go back to the old position and wield the holes up to fix them up .i can try turning it instead like you said VNSVLE i will wild the holes to make the them smaller and to give it more strength i just have to find the right position fist for the camber and and i will wield the holes up smaller for strength!!!!!! how can you say wielding it will weaken it it will make it stronger aren't cars welded to hold the together what is the difference i think you like just like having a go at me , why whats the problem ,i do not wont to wreck my car just fix it and all i get is negatives off you sorry my car is a safe car mate and i do not do bog jobs on my car just mods VNSVLE!!!!!! i did say i would wield it so what's the problem with welding the holes back up !!!!!!!!!!!!! i just said i don't think it needs welding i did not mean that i would not wield it!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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i will wield the thick whooshes onto the car Chase for extra strength OK ,i just have to find the right camber position first and it will be stronger than stock once the thick whooshes are wielded on car!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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Not having a go at you at all buddy. The body of a car is spot welded together a completely different process. The welds themselves will become a week point as the material of the weld and the material of the car will not be exactly the same and bonding of the two materials may not be complete. The heat the strut tower material will take while you are welding can change the properties of the steel making it possibly more brittle (prone to cracking) or more malleable (softer) depending how the material cools.
The forces that the strut towers take while driving is quite intense.
My advice to you would be to get a professional opinion from someone such as a panel beater or a suspension place at the very least before you start to weld or modify any further.

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Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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sorry i did not drill knew holes i just opened them in the direction i had to go to fix my camber to get more adjustment so the holes aren't that big and i just put bigger stronger whooshes only to cover the modded holes up and my camber is fixed!!!!!! sorry i did not drill knew holes in my strut tower just opened them in the direction i had to go to fix my camber!!!!!!!!!!! and my car is fixed!!!!!! i am sorry VNSVLE i just want to fix my car up not wreck it.an i am competent to work on my car i am not stupid i do good work i have never gone to the mechanic because i have been fixing my own cars all my life , just painted my car and it took me 1year and 6 month to sand it to get it perfect for painting don't just think that i don't now ab-ult fixing cars i have been doing it ever since i go my divers licence i am 40 years old and never gone and payed a mechanic to work on my cars so i am not a licensed mechanic but i do know how to fix and restore cars!!!!!! i have experience to work on my car i do not go to mechanics thy area ripoff big-time so i fix my own cars cars sorry VNSVLE
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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Posted - 19 Oct 2010 :  5:18:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
i only dilled the hols bigger-er in the direction i had to go to fix my camber angle .the holes are not big the holes look like two holes joined together , the holes have made a small (track-slots) for the bolts too have more adjustment for the camber and i put everything back together in the original position in new camber adjustment slots that i mad and then tightened the nuts up in the new camber position about 4mm , so the holes on my car are not that big . and then i put bigger whooshes on to cover the modified holes up and too mack it look stock-legal for registration . i have fixed my cars camber problem now and i am happy that i did it !!!!!!!! this is too every-one on this site- (if you do not like this modification then don't do it)!!!!! but it fixed my car and i am happy with this mod the way it is !!!! i will spot weld the whooshes onto the car and will try not too heat it up too mack - heat will distort the strut tower so i have to be careful when welding it . so i like this mod and am happy my car is fixed now !!!!(if you don't like the this modification then just don't do it ) !!!!!!
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

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Posted - 19 Oct 2010 :  9:28:27 PM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message
 
Just reading through your previous posts and in post number six you state you removed the suspension from the right hand side and in post number 23 you state that you have never removed the suspension from your car.
So which is it??

Now what makes you think that this modification has worked?? The difference in tyre wear over 3 days is not going to be at all noticeable.
Also what made you think that it was camber wear and not wear caused by excess toe in??


 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 19 Oct 2010 :  9:42:27 PM  Show Profile Send VNSVLE a Private Message
 
On another note I never once said you are stupid I do however think that what you have done is rather questionable.
There are many many affordable options that would have been suitable for the job.
 

What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared.
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  12:48:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
sorry i did not explain wot i did properly in post 6 sorry for that i did not remember the name off the strut tower so i did not explain it purely sorry my mistake, what i meant to say is i just disconnect it and let it drop down when i undid when i to tuck the suspension unit off the strut tower that is what i meant to say VNSVLE -i did not pull-apart the suspension unit i just took it off the strut tower and let it hang there that's all i did it looks much better than where it was , and i seed just by looking at the camber angle off the tyre on my car now it looks alot better than before where the camber was not good angle, i did not say it is perfectly adjusted i seed it might need to go back 1mm or 2mm i will have too see how my tyre wears out over a couple off weeks trial ,it might need adjustment later to get the right camber , i do know that you don't like this mod VNSVLE -that is your opinion - not mine ! i like this mod that is my opinion so lets just leave it at that VNSVLE . i don't wont to argue with you over this lol ,i am here to make friends lol not fight lol
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com
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Posted - 20 Oct 2010 :  04:36:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit andrewpapa's Homepage Send andrewpapa a Private Message
 
i did this mod on sunday 17/10 /2010 and it was the first time that i have eva taken it off and i mod-ed the holes abut 4mm .i joining the knew hole with the old ones too mack a slot for bolts so i have a little more adjustment for the camber , i meant that if it had been done before i Burt my car i did not buy my car from brand knew i got it when it was 10 or 11years old -second hand car so it my have been dune before i Burt it and it was not installed back in the correct position for the car, that is what i meant sorry
 

i am not a licenced mechanic but i do have years off experience fixing and restoring cars and doing them up ,i can even do-motors-up,panel betting,spray painting,electrical work. i know What i am doing when fixing my cars, i am not saying i know everything on how to fix cars but i can fix them with information and help off the internet and this site.vncommador.com

Edited by - andrewpapa on 20 Oct 2010 04:40:37 AM
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