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WHITE VG
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 2:52:20 PM
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Hi guys was talking to a mechanic the other day geting a quote on rebulding my engine which was $3600 , and he was telling me what they replace etc and said that they put in a piece of metal somewhere near the cam to stop it from stuffing your motor , it was apparently a mistake from the factory does anyone know what he might be talking about and should i get this done to my engine .
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dryVN
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 5:22:39 PM
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Hey Mate , the rear seal on the v6 is a common problem .
when fitted properly it will last for years.
not sure about a metal piece though to fix it. |
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WHITE VG
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 5:57:14 PM
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Yea wasnt to sure what exactly he replaced but i know he said sumthing about puting in some metal thing to stop the cam from breaking . |
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dryVN
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 7:14:31 PM
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might not be a common problem , sounds like yours may have had the cam Key or thrust washer not installed properly ?
if you don't mind me asking , what type of motor are ya building ? |
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dryVN
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 8:23:44 PM
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Being a VG , its most likely a s2 motor and Holden made em all pretty tuff from factory.
Most VN's have done a fair amount of km by now and i would have thought a problem like the cam breaking would
have shown up years ago. Some one might have more info for you on aftermarket fixes for the cam.
i have not heard of any breaking before cause of bad factory design.... |
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WHITE VG
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 10:22:43 PM
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Thanks for hat dry vn and nah i have a series 1 engine its a 1990 model vg ute , its got the series one coil packs and the metal pipe that go's behind the engine for the coolant , and nah im not rebuilding the engine after hearing how much it would cost $3600 is a bit much for me , i think im just going to stick with a exchange engine installed for 1200 with 3 month warranty which is the cheapest i have found so far , and yeah i heard that the rear main seals are a pain on the early models , im not to sure what happend to mine but i know its sumthing in the bottom half of the engine , it makes a big tinking noise like its a bearing gone , i tryed turning the bottom crank with a adjustable spanner it will only go so far and stop and then turn it the other way and will stop at a certain point , but anyways cheers . |
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trizo
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 11:48:15 PM
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dude dont spend that on your engine, unless the mech is including some serious work! |
3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 12:19:55 AM
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Well I wont tell you what it cost me to rebuild my last V6 :P Where are you getting the exchange engine from?? |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer? Understeer is when the driver is scared. Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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WHITE VG
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 12:51:35 AM
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Im geting my exchange engine from vl projects north side of brisbane , they did my mates vs commodore and did a pretty good job on his exchange engine , and nah im not spending $3600 on a rebuilt engine way to expensive for me , if i was to spend that sort of money on my ute i would put in a holden 304 v8 , and just curious how much did it cost ya VNSVLE for your rebuilt enigne lol , |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 3:07:29 PM
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I rebuilt it myself. Had the block acid bathed, honed and final clean at a shop. Also had to get the cam journal line bored and oversized bearings put in (which they screwed up the reason it only lasted 60 km) All up I think including buying the engine it cost me about 3000 - 3500 to do pretty much all of it myself. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer? Understeer is when the driver is scared. Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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WHITE VG
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 5:33:11 PM
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Does it sound very lumpy at idle with that cam in there , what pistons did you use did you get flat top ones at all , |
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VN91SX
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 7:09:12 PM
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Mine has a very lumpy cam in it. Had it put in three months ago. The car cracks me up! So much character lol |
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WHITE VG
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 7:45:58 PM
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Sounds good VN91SX did it give you much more power installing the cam , and im guessing its a hydraulic cam not solid . |
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VN91SX
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 8:36:18 PM
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It made a sh1tload of difference to the motor. The sound is incredible (doesn't sound like one of those farty sixes). Very lumpy idle. I love the sound more than anything. An old guy at a Ford dealership loved it. I pulled up, and he comes up to me after i got out of the car, and he says to me "that sounds awesome. I haven't heard a car with hydraulic lifters in many many years". I was very suprised that a six could sound as good as it does! |
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WHITE VG
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 : 9:23:27 PM
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Sounds sweet VN91SX , what kind of cam and whst stage , what ball park figure would i be looking at geting a cam for my car if i was to get one in the near future . |
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