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Kempy
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 Posted - 09 Aug 2007 : 3:03:18 PM
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hey just wondering if it is true that to install pacemaker extractors that you have to remove the power steering rack, the ones i bought have like a part where you can unbolt one of the tubes from the right hand extractor. is that to avoid taking out the rack???
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aussiefastbowler
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 : 4:51:53 PM
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yes. only the old design of pacemakers needed to disconnect the rack.
the new design you dont have to. |
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vnkid
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aussiefastbowler
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 4:29:49 PM
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| no idea, has been around for a while though, you can tell in the pictures if its new or not. |
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Kempy
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Posted - 10 Aug 2007 : 8:50:47 PM
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so mine are new???
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thunderstruck
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 12:44:21 AM
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| the racks not hard to remove and even with the new design it's hard to fit with the rack still in |
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trizo
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 09:57:45 AM
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| ok fry me over this if you must, but I cant c xtractors pacemaker/genie whatever, making much of a diff without a full exahst upgrade??? |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 10:11:57 AM
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| It will make a slight difference but not as much as a full upgrade of course. About the only thing you will really notice without full upgrade is the change in the exhaust note. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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trizo
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 10:13:31 AM
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| lmao , if that is what they are tryin to acheive ... well umm ummm..... aaaaaaahahahahhahahhahaahhahahahahahhahaahhaha |
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aussiefastbowler
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 2:44:53 PM
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if you just want sound, get a exhaust and save ur money.
if you want sound AND power, get extractors and exhaust at least 2" big.
but trizo is right, stock exhaust with extractors is wastin ur cash |
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Kempy
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 3:25:45 PM
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what about the cat converter does that flow enough?
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 3:35:24 PM
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| A high flow cat would be a better option. I would be going for 2 and a half inch system with a high flow cat myself. Dont go any bigger than 2 and a half though as it will hinder performance. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Kempy
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 5:40:06 PM
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| would the power increase still be there if i had extractors exhaust but standard cat |
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vnkid
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 6:09:40 PM
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| i always thought the standard cat on a v6 is more than enough... |
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aussiefastbowler
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 6:22:03 PM
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a standard cat on a v6 with stock exhaust and extractors is enough, but if you got better extractors and exhaust, you could still benefit with a high flow cat.
yes you still will get a HUGH power increase with extractors and exhaust, high flow cat is just extra icing on the cake, standard cat good enough. but high flow still a good idea but by no means nessesary.
The power increase with my pacemakers and 2 1/2 only was suprising. |
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3.8litresofjustice
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 6:39:54 PM
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how easy are the extractors to fit as is a basic bolt on job?
anything of special knowledge needed to do it yourself?
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trizo
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 7:24:40 PM
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the extractors are easy you just haf to tighten the bolts in order ! your manual should have the order in it! Other wise post bak and I'll putem up for ya!
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SWEET
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 7:31:13 PM
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| speaking of extractors. how big are they copmpare to stock extractors? cos when i look at the 2 of them they look the same |
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Kempy
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 07:23:39 AM
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| how "BIG" is the power increase from the extractors and exhaust, is it noticable, how noticable. lol |
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nodg
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 11:25:58 AM
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| the exhaust note will change due to the flow change in the system. as for the power, without an exhaust you will notice it more in the higher rev range but responsiveness is also increased. exhaust is the cheapest and best bet to go faster and sound louder! |
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aussiefastbowler
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 12:48:13 PM
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the extractor pipes themselves arent bigger, but if you look at the design, each has an individual pipe running down into the y frame, as opposed to trying to cram 3 times as much exhaust down the same size pipe.
With exhaust and extractors, top end performance is the biggest increase, but also responsiveness like nodg said |
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SWEET
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 5:43:20 PM
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| top end responce u mean at high speeds right? cos thats wat i need in me car. |
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Kempy
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 8:36:48 PM
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any difference in low end?
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Kempy
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 9:00:17 PM
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| also i have a stage 2 crow cam, will the extractors and exhaust help the cam work. on the crow cam site it says u need the full exhaust to get the power gain??? |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 9:07:35 PM
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| Yes the extractors and exhaust system will help the cam quite a bit. It should give you both bottom end response(slightly more torque in the lower rev range) and top end response( a bit more power in the higher rev range). Will also help with throttle response. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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aussiefastbowler
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:22:45 AM
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extractors and exhaust adds more power to both top and low end, just a lot more noticable at the higher revs.
and the cam will def benefit.
i love my pacemakers, adds a nice power boost and great sound. |
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NOJ05H
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 2:15:10 PM
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| im gtn pacemakers right after it goes manual :):) im so excited |
Need assistance with modding my vn, please PM me ideas coz i dont really know what to do... |
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Kempy
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 4:32:59 PM
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| so low end is wen your going slow then floor it? |
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Kempy
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 4:36:01 PM
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| also i heard that the y peice for a manual dosent fit an auto but the y peice for an auto fits a manual, i have a y peice but i dont no if its for a manual or an auto, my car is auto, is there anyway to tell what it is for |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 5:01:37 PM
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| Because the auto tranny is slightly larger then the manual you have to run the exhaust system a little differently. Just get under the car with the Y piece and size it up by eye. I am not sure how different they are but if it dont look like it is gonna fit then i would say that you have the manual y piece. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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Kempy
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Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 8:24:43 PM
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| how much does a y peice cost anyways? |
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