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wombo
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 Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 7:26:37 PM
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hey all
im nt sure wat the real name for it is but oversize drive belts or sumthin just wondering if u can put them on v6s iv onlys seen them on v8 hmmm just tryin to sprues up the vn envgine a bit lol i reacon they look nd sound sik can u do it yorself ?
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nodg
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 02:07:01 AM
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| just makes your car sound like it has a supercharger! |
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MILD50
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NOJ05H
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 12:35:55 PM
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| what does an oversize belt do exactly?? |
Need assistance with modding my vn, please PM me ideas coz i dont really know what to do... |
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nodg
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 11:27:41 PM
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| makes a **** **** noise when the belt spins.... and spot on mild they are called gilmer belts |
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MILD50
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 : 08:30:06 AM
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I'm not sure you can even get gilmer belt systems for the efi 8 but I could be wrong.
Does anyone know as to how the large belt affects parasitic power loss? I would have thought there is more resistance to drive them? |
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trizo
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 : 08:34:21 AM
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| crikey mild were ya pulling them words from lol!! |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 : 10:39:59 AM
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Noise is energy too and as we all know from first law of thermodynamics "Energy can not be created or destroyed but only transfered"
The energy involved in squeezing out all those little pockets of air in the Gilmer system (creating the noise) can only come from the crankshaft |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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trizo
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Posted - 15 Jun 2007 : 9:15:41 PM
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| lol stop it brai overload it hurts!!! lmao nice 1 ..... @ vnsvle I'm voting 4 u as mod !!! Go my bro!! |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 01:34:32 AM
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lol thanks mate, just had to add my opinion you know how it goes |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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trizo
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 02:18:10 AM
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| yep the opinions count on here m8! |
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MILD50
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 2:14:54 PM
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| So obviously we are looking at power loss from changing to a wider belt with not other mods (other than those to fit the damn thing on)- but what would the estimated loss be? 5kw? 10kw? |
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nodg
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 4:18:39 PM
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| you dont know the differance, its the same as people think you go faster disconnecting your aircon, but thats not true . |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 8:36:57 PM
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| The only way that you would be able to tell the difference would be on the dyno. I dont think you will actually be able to feel any real difference just by driving. I couldn't tell you exact figures. |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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wombo
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Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 1:40:25 PM
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hey all
so is it posible to put them on the v6 engine is the a kit for them i want to gt one just to spruse the sound of my engine up |
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VNSVLE
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Posted - 17 Jun 2007 : 8:28:36 PM
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Chase up a company called "DieCrest Engineering" in Bagshaw Victoria. They machine them up for most things.
Bagshaw St Harcourt VIC 3453
p: (03) 5474 2321 |
What's the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Understeer is when the driver is scared.
Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 09:24:41 AM
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Rocket Industries or VPW may be able to point you in the right direction.
@NODG- granted it would be neglible at best and you wouldn't notice it, just like most people really couldn't tell the difference between a car with a CAI and one without but every little bit helps. Thats why I said 5 to 10kw... you just wouldn't know the difference. As for disconnecting aircon- yeah it does actually help. If you are serious about quarter mile times every little bit helps. It won't turn your car into a rocket ship but it will help ;) |
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trizo
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 : 7:12:47 PM
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Yep a cai if connected properly will give you 5-10kw if not more depending how your setup @mild I can c ya thinking on the aircon but there realy is nopower gain in disconnecting the aircon!! Been proven on a dyno!! ;)
If ya rip the whole aircon crap out anyway a get a shorter belt I could c that giving more power 4 the fact the belt doest have to turn as far there 4 giving a bit more punch when you plant it ( i could and most proberly am wrong? )and you will be a bit lighter in the engine bay!! right of topic I know!! |
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nodg
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 08:03:14 AM
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| only at night and early in the morning when its cold as, and admit that the cai does come into play there but i recon its only about a kilowatt or so |
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Nodg. |
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MILD50
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 1:41:42 PM
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Sorry Trizo but I'll have to argue that point.
I don't have any slips available as hard evidence but as anecdotal evidence, there is a reason that disconnecting unnecessary belts is part of the street racers quarter mile preperations (just like removing the spare...). Honestly, its not going to give much kick but it will reduce wasted power. |
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trizo
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 6:50:11 PM
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| fair enough!! If youve done and it works well go ahead!! Like I said I cant c it making much diff unless u ripped the whole a/c unit out and put a shorter belt in!!! P.S I have done a bit of racing my self ;) But I'm not here 4 a argument, put it this way I'll take ya word 4 it! |
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wombo
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 9:46:52 PM
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| hmm well u gta admit one day ule be on a long drive in 40 degrees goin y tha hell did i disconect me darn air con grrrr hahahahahahahahaha but yeah nyways my m8 did it to his 5 litre vp nd it did give it noticeable efect just bit more responsive to tapn the exaerator but yeah nm haha (he took the hole thing out nd put shorter belt |
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